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		<title>By: Pat</title>
		<link>http://patwelsh.com/wpmu/blog/garden-q-a/cutting-back-a-passion-vine-passiflora/comment-page-1/#comment-1307</link>
		<dc:creator>Pat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Oct 2011 03:12:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What a lovely idea to grow a passionflower vine on an old plow. The butterfly that is decimating your vine is called Gulf Fritillary. My opinion is that this butterfly is something worth having. It never eats the flowers, only the leaves. If the passion vine you purchased in Florida is adapted to your climate, it will continue to grow every year and produce flowers despite the butterfly. I used to have two or three of these vines in my garden a few years ago and we always loved the butterflies that came from them. Once the hairy larvae have finished munching the vine they will get onto the wooden sections of your old plow and hang their crysalises here and there underneath the wood where they should be able to survive the winter in places where you might never notice them. Watching them hatch when the weather warms up in spring or early summer is fascinating and then they will fly around in your garden and eventually float away on the wind, but they will never lay their eggs on anything other than a passion vine so they harm nothing in the garden. If you have children or grandchildren the whole process can be a delight for them to watch. A few tragic butterflies may have difficultly opening their wings, but for the most part all goes well, the wings unfurl successfully and then dry after which each butterfly will take a few halting steps, then gaining strength and courage, float away triumphantly, truly a heart-lifting sight.  After the caterpillars are through eating the leaves, you can cut back the vine a bit or wait until spring. Depending on your climate, it will sprout again from the ground in spring or if you live in a mild area it might grow new branches from the existing stems. If it survives your winter, fertilize in spring to encourage new growth.  The hardiest of passion vines is Passiflora incarnata. It is deciduous and dies to the ground in winter. I am afraid that you might have purchased a tender variety that won&#039;t survive winter in your climate zone. You will just have to wait and see if it returns in spring. If not, plant it as an annual. Some types grow easily from seeds.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What a lovely idea to grow a passionflower vine on an old plow. The butterfly that is decimating your vine is called Gulf Fritillary. My opinion is that this butterfly is something worth having. It never eats the flowers, only the leaves. If the passion vine you purchased in Florida is adapted to your climate, it will continue to grow every year and produce flowers despite the butterfly. I used to have two or three of these vines in my garden a few years ago and we always loved the butterflies that came from them. Once the hairy larvae have finished munching the vine they will get onto the wooden sections of your old plow and hang their crysalises here and there underneath the wood where they should be able to survive the winter in places where you might never notice them. Watching them hatch when the weather warms up in spring or early summer is fascinating and then they will fly around in your garden and eventually float away on the wind, but they will never lay their eggs on anything other than a passion vine so they harm nothing in the garden. If you have children or grandchildren the whole process can be a delight for them to watch. A few tragic butterflies may have difficultly opening their wings, but for the most part all goes well, the wings unfurl successfully and then dry after which each butterfly will take a few halting steps, then gaining strength and courage, float away triumphantly, truly a heart-lifting sight.  After the caterpillars are through eating the leaves, you can cut back the vine a bit or wait until spring. Depending on your climate, it will sprout again from the ground in spring or if you live in a mild area it might grow new branches from the existing stems. If it survives your winter, fertilize in spring to encourage new growth.  The hardiest of passion vines is Passiflora incarnata. It is deciduous and dies to the ground in winter. I am afraid that you might have purchased a tender variety that won&#8217;t survive winter in your climate zone. You will just have to wait and see if it returns in spring. If not, plant it as an annual. Some types grow easily from seeds.</p>
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		<title>By: Pat</title>
		<link>http://patwelsh.com/wpmu/blog/garden-q-a/cutting-back-a-passion-vine-passiflora/comment-page-1/#comment-1305</link>
		<dc:creator>Pat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Oct 2011 02:57:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your passion vine (Passiflora jamesonii &#039;Coral Sea&#039;) is an evergreen climbing plant adapted to growing in Hawaii or Sunset Zones 14 through 24. Petaluma is in Zone 14 so your vine can be grown there. Frost will not kill it but might make the leaves fall off.  If frost is expected, I might cover the plant with a bed sheet or plastic on frosty nights but uncover it in the daytime. If frost damages the vine, wait until the plant has begun to grow again in spring before cutting off any damaged portions. During winter the damaged parts will  help to protect the rest of it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your passion vine (Passiflora jamesonii &#8216;Coral Sea&#8217;) is an evergreen climbing plant adapted to growing in Hawaii or Sunset Zones 14 through 24. Petaluma is in Zone 14 so your vine can be grown there. Frost will not kill it but might make the leaves fall off.  If frost is expected, I might cover the plant with a bed sheet or plastic on frosty nights but uncover it in the daytime. If frost damages the vine, wait until the plant has begun to grow again in spring before cutting off any damaged portions. During winter the damaged parts will  help to protect the rest of it.</p>
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		<title>By: Kathryn McGeorge</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kathryn McGeorge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Sep 2011 15:12:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have a lovely coral sea passion vine and am curious what to do with winter approaching.  Planted up against the house - I live in NOrthern Ca., san Francisco bay area, Petaluma.  we get five to six days of frost annually.
thank you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have a lovely coral sea passion vine and am curious what to do with winter approaching.  Planted up against the house &#8211; I live in NOrthern Ca., san Francisco bay area, Petaluma.  we get five to six days of frost annually.<br />
thank you.</p>
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		<title>By: Shirley Crawford</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shirley Crawford</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Sep 2011 16:29:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have a passion vine purchased on NE Florida and it is growing on an old plow and doing nicely. However, we are having an orange butterfly lay eggs and then the orange/black caterpillars are eating the passion vine down to the stem. It still has some leaves and the butterflies are becoming less In number. should I cit back for the winter or will it come back on it&#039;s own from the stems?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have a passion vine purchased on NE Florida and it is growing on an old plow and doing nicely. However, we are having an orange butterfly lay eggs and then the orange/black caterpillars are eating the passion vine down to the stem. It still has some leaves and the butterflies are becoming less In number. should I cit back for the winter or will it come back on it&#8217;s own from the stems?</p>
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		<title>By: Pat</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Mar 2011 20:35:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your passion fruit vines (Passiflora edulis&#039;Frederick&#039; and P. edulis &#039;Red Rover&#039; or &#039;Red Ambrosia&#039;) are sweet, good-tasting varieties of fruiting passion fruit vines, but they are tropical vines most successful in a warmer climate than coastal San Diego may provide. The easiest variety to grow here in San Diego County is the purple-fruited one. Usually passion fruit begins to bear fruit after a year or two, but we have had some strange temperature swings and cold nights. Too much chilly weather when the vine is young might slow down the beginning of bearing. So I would not yet give up hope of success. 

Passion fruit vines prefer full sun along the coast, or a little light shade in interior zones. They want deep, well drained, fertile soil and a warm protected location,such as against a south facing reflective wall away from wind. They bear best when the ground is kept dry during the coldest portion of the year, which has not been the case this year. If given adequate food and water, they grow fast to large size—often as high as 30 feet—and respond well to nitrogen fertilizer. They can get crown rot if subjected to soggy soil or planted too deep and if well grown can adapt to dry conditions better than wet ones. They respond best to deep and infrequent watering instead of shallow and frequent watering. If a passion fruit vine becomes too tall one can control its size by cutting it back in early spring after it resumes growth. 

If you read over the requirements above and you see that you haven&#039;t fulfilled some, then I would take that as an indication of what might be the matter. I have several guesses as to what your problem might be: First perhaps the vines are in ocean wind where there is not enough heat. Second: if they are growing in wet soil in winter perhaps combined with poor drainage that could prevent flowering. And third, most importantly: No bees mean  no fruit. 

I think one of your main problems is failure to understand that passion fruit vines are gluttonous feeders and high bloom ingredients—phosphorus and potassium— are not enough. These plants love fertilizer and this mainly means nitrogen. It&#039;s a great idea to begin feeding at planting time and plant them on top of a dead fish or several handfuls of fish entrails and skin or a bunch of dead fish heads to give them a big feeding boost at the beginning of life. Yes, I mean throw a whole dead fish in the bottom of the planting hole, then add a bit of top soil and stick the plant on top of that and fill in the ground. That plant will take off like gangbusters. (Get spoiled fish, skin, bones, or fish entrails free from fish markets.) I would also mulch the top of the ground over the roots with well-rotted horse manure. If you apply manure next fall before the rains then you don&#039;t even need to age the manure. You can just put it on top of the ground ahead of the rains and let the rains was the nitrogen into the ground. Just keep it 6-inches or 8-inches away from the crown of the plant so it won&#039;t get crown rot.

Passion fruit vines do not require a pollinator, but they do require pollination by bees so the fact that you had flowers and no fruit says to me your problem was lack of bees. (See my video on this topic under videos.) If you have no bees that would explain why you had flowers but no fruit. Next time you see flowers make sure there are bees. If no bees you should hand pollinate. 

To hand pollinate passion flowers look inside the flower. The sticky bump in the middle of the flower is the stigma in the middle. This is the female part of the flower and the anthers around it are the male which bear the pollen. In the late morning or early afternoon when the pollen is dry take a small sable brush and twirl it to pick up pollen from the anthers and then dab the pollen onto the stigmas of other flowers. Do this when the pollen is fresh and bright yellow and continue every day or two as long as you see flowers. You need to play bee and do what bees do. They go from flower to flower and from plant to plant they just don&#039;t pollinate one flower and fly away, they do them all. This mixes the pollen and produces good pollination. Another way is to clip off the anthers with pollen intact with a pair of clippers that grab such as flower shears, drop all the anthers from several flowers into a small container and mix it around with your brush then go dab this mix on the central sticky stigma you will see sticking up in the center of each flower. If you have left over pollen you can cover tightly and store it in the refrigerator over night and use the next day.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your passion fruit vines (Passiflora edulis&#8217;Frederick&#8217; and P. edulis &#8216;Red Rover&#8217; or &#8216;Red Ambrosia&#8217;) are sweet, good-tasting varieties of fruiting passion fruit vines, but they are tropical vines most successful in a warmer climate than coastal San Diego may provide. The easiest variety to grow here in San Diego County is the purple-fruited one. Usually passion fruit begins to bear fruit after a year or two, but we have had some strange temperature swings and cold nights. Too much chilly weather when the vine is young might slow down the beginning of bearing. So I would not yet give up hope of success. </p>
<p>Passion fruit vines prefer full sun along the coast, or a little light shade in interior zones. They want deep, well drained, fertile soil and a warm protected location,such as against a south facing reflective wall away from wind. They bear best when the ground is kept dry during the coldest portion of the year, which has not been the case this year. If given adequate food and water, they grow fast to large size—often as high as 30 feet—and respond well to nitrogen fertilizer. They can get crown rot if subjected to soggy soil or planted too deep and if well grown can adapt to dry conditions better than wet ones. They respond best to deep and infrequent watering instead of shallow and frequent watering. If a passion fruit vine becomes too tall one can control its size by cutting it back in early spring after it resumes growth. </p>
<p>If you read over the requirements above and you see that you haven&#8217;t fulfilled some, then I would take that as an indication of what might be the matter. I have several guesses as to what your problem might be: First perhaps the vines are in ocean wind where there is not enough heat. Second: if they are growing in wet soil in winter perhaps combined with poor drainage that could prevent flowering. And third, most importantly: No bees mean  no fruit. </p>
<p>I think one of your main problems is failure to understand that passion fruit vines are gluttonous feeders and high bloom ingredients—phosphorus and potassium— are not enough. These plants love fertilizer and this mainly means nitrogen. It&#8217;s a great idea to begin feeding at planting time and plant them on top of a dead fish or several handfuls of fish entrails and skin or a bunch of dead fish heads to give them a big feeding boost at the beginning of life. Yes, I mean throw a whole dead fish in the bottom of the planting hole, then add a bit of top soil and stick the plant on top of that and fill in the ground. That plant will take off like gangbusters. (Get spoiled fish, skin, bones, or fish entrails free from fish markets.) I would also mulch the top of the ground over the roots with well-rotted horse manure. If you apply manure next fall before the rains then you don&#8217;t even need to age the manure. You can just put it on top of the ground ahead of the rains and let the rains was the nitrogen into the ground. Just keep it 6-inches or 8-inches away from the crown of the plant so it won&#8217;t get crown rot.</p>
<p>Passion fruit vines do not require a pollinator, but they do require pollination by bees so the fact that you had flowers and no fruit says to me your problem was lack of bees. (See my video on this topic under videos.) If you have no bees that would explain why you had flowers but no fruit. Next time you see flowers make sure there are bees. If no bees you should hand pollinate. </p>
<p>To hand pollinate passion flowers look inside the flower. The sticky bump in the middle of the flower is the stigma in the middle. This is the female part of the flower and the anthers around it are the male which bear the pollen. In the late morning or early afternoon when the pollen is dry take a small sable brush and twirl it to pick up pollen from the anthers and then dab the pollen onto the stigmas of other flowers. Do this when the pollen is fresh and bright yellow and continue every day or two as long as you see flowers. You need to play bee and do what bees do. They go from flower to flower and from plant to plant they just don&#8217;t pollinate one flower and fly away, they do them all. This mixes the pollen and produces good pollination. Another way is to clip off the anthers with pollen intact with a pair of clippers that grab such as flower shears, drop all the anthers from several flowers into a small container and mix it around with your brush then go dab this mix on the central sticky stigma you will see sticking up in the center of each flower. If you have left over pollen you can cover tightly and store it in the refrigerator over night and use the next day.</p>
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		<title>By: Dor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Mar 2011 01:04:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi

My husband and I went to your presentation at Del Mar, you taught us a lot of information, Thanks! 

We have 2 frederic passion vine, that are suppose to fruit, 2 years old we got flowers but zero fruit. We have one red that has never even flowered but has spread. The 1st year used Dr Earth flower fertilizer. The 2nd year used organic fruit fertilizer. What type &amp; brand do you recommend for organic fertiziler for this plant since it has not fruited?</description>
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<p>My husband and I went to your presentation at Del Mar, you taught us a lot of information, Thanks! </p>
<p>We have 2 frederic passion vine, that are suppose to fruit, 2 years old we got flowers but zero fruit. We have one red that has never even flowered but has spread. The 1st year used Dr Earth flower fertilizer. The 2nd year used organic fruit fertilizer. What type &amp; brand do you recommend for organic fertiziler for this plant since it has not fruited?</p>
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		<title>By: Thankful Gardener</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Jan 2010 04:44:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you so much for taking the time to give me detailed description of the various ways to prune my passion vine.  I no longer have the detailed paperwork provided by the landscaper who designed the garden in my front yard, but the vine is strictly flowering, bright flowers.  I let you know how it goes!  My best regards.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you so much for taking the time to give me detailed description of the various ways to prune my passion vine.  I no longer have the detailed paperwork provided by the landscaper who designed the garden in my front yard, but the vine is strictly flowering, bright flowers.  I let you know how it goes!  My best regards.</p>
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